Wow, I didn't know it was THAT hard to fire someone in Malaysia. I knew that the contract (that we usually have) protects you from being fired arbitrarily, but I thought you could easily be fired if you breached policy. So what do I have to do to get fired?

Sharing is totally caring! Please share. It's not everyone that I can talk to about these things without them getting bored.

If you know of any developments about this from work, please share and care!

That's nuts, that's really nuts. I don't think any person would go for a job that forces you to turn over your passwords, websites, et all. Ridiculous! Unless you really want the job.

I suppose that's how employment goes in the US. Over here though, our employment laws are very protective of employees and their rights. Dismissing them is hard to do (I didn't know this before) and it's got to be done with just cause and excuse. Say an employee breaches a company policy. Although that's sufficient ground to actually terminate his contract, not so says the Industrial Courts. They have to actually see whether the conduct of the employee is serious enough to warrant a dismissal. Crazy kan? The first case I worked on involved a guy who had got himself into plenty of trouble, breaching company policies left and right. When my boss asked me to do some research and see if the employing company had the right to fire him, I thought "pfft, yeah!". Then I learned it wasn't that obvious.

The above is just sharing some info, I get so much of it at work it spills out sometimes. Hope you don't mind, because sharing is caring! Haha

Thank you, by the way. It's interesting to see how law develops to deal with these new situations.

But employers definitely google you first and check your facebook profile before they hire you. "70 percent of U.S. hiring managers said they had eliminated candidates based on what they found." You'd be surprised how many people apparently don't enable their privacy settings or just make it private "within their network". Think the network of "Kuala Lumpur" or "Ottawa". Not very private.

I also know that in America where they still mostly use "at-will" employment, your employer can fire you for any reason except a few protected ones (age, gender, religion, race, sexual direction). Otherwise, they can fire you for anything. Including not liking the colour of your shoes.

So they can fire you if you don't add them as facebook friends and worse, they can legitimately fire you for not giving them your facebook and email passwords. One even asked for passwords as part of the interview process! Example: http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2009/06/19/want-a-jo…

Most probably it was this story that I read about Bozeman. Although I was sure I'd read of quite a few companies forcing you to add your boss… Oh well.

Actually I'm not sure how it's implemented. It might not be in the contract but more of a "my boss asked me an I can't refuse" thing. I read it up a while ago (last year) so I'll look back for the source.

There was a debate about it (which, sadly enough, was probably the only reason I noticed it) on how far employers could go.

I'll get the source to you. You just have to promise that you share with me how it turns out with your boss. (the non-confidential parts anyway)

Really? I didn't know that was legal. How do they enforce it though, through company policies or through terms of employment contracts? The employer has a right to protect his legitimate business interests, but forcing employees to add their bosses sounds like taking it a bit too far.

Mind sharing the source on this, Lutfi? Sounds like something I can take up with my boss, hee.

June 4th sounds so far away though. Oh well, I'll try to survive till then.